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03.23.18
Michael Bierut + Jessica Helfand | Audio

Episode 77: Cape to California


“Cities are great places in which to experiment and to try to use design to affect human life — it’s the right kind of scale,” Michael says in a conversation about Cape Town, where Jessica traveled with students to study the severe water shortage, and Los Angeles, which named L.A. Times architecture critic Christopher Hawthorne as its first chief design officer.

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